Reviewer: Opanaabuser, 35-44 Male on Treatment for less than 1 month (Patient)

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I just started the recovery process for opioid addiction four days ago. I was initially prescribed Suboxene 8mg x 2 daily. I too have UHC and they refused to pay for it. I had to buy a few days of Suboxene out of pocket because thats all I could get while waiting for the pharmacy to order Subsolve. Although Suboxene initially brought me out of withdrawal, by the third day I still felt badly. ... Show Full Comment

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I just started the recovery process for opioid addiction four days ago. I was initially prescribed Suboxene 8mg x 2 daily. I too have UHC and they refused to pay for it. I had to buy a few days of Suboxene out of pocket because thats all I could get while waiting for the pharmacy to order Subsolve. Although Suboxene initially brought me out of withdrawal, by the third day I still felt badly. Still a drugged feeling. My doctor said to not swallow the spit because the bupe has low bioavalability, and the noloxone has a higher stomach bioavalability. So this would cause the suboxene to not work. Unfortunately the Suboxene is very bitter and chemical tasting. So it caused me to salavate badly and I had no choice but to swallow my saliva. Therefore I continued to feel badly, obviously still in a state of withdraw. Suboxene was causing bad stomach cramps as well. My mew script came in for Subsolve fortunately. They have a coupon on their site that makes them free after insurance pays, so I would suggest to go get it. My dose changed from 8mg x 2 to 5.7mg x 3. With the Subsolve it is much easier to take. It doesnt taste badly at all and I was able to follow the instructions to not swallow the spit. I waited to spit until my saliva did not taste like mint any longer, so I know the bupe was fully administered. It brought me back to normal almost immediately and the cramps also faded within 30 minutes. The Subsolve does not make me feel drugged at all. I feel normal. Suboxene also caused really bad insomnia, that or it did nothing for withdrawal insomnia. Either way I could not sleep on Suboxene and after I took my first Subsolve i took a two hour nap and actually slept. Although I have not had much experience with Suboxene, the Subsolve does seem to make me feel much better and it is easier for me to take and does not taste like chemically dipped oranges.
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Reviewer: Kandiroxi , 25-34 Female on Treatment for less than 1 month (Patient)

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Zubsolv is absolutely terrible! I wish my health insurance would've allowed me to stay on suboxone like I have been for the last 3 years. Unfortunately United healthcare will only cover zubsolv. Suboxone was literally a life saver. It gave me the opportunity to live a happy and productive life with my kids. I have been on Zubsolv now for 2 weeks and have been sick since the first day. Suboxone ... Show Full Comment

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Zubsolv is absolutely terrible! I wish my health insurance would've allowed me to stay on suboxone like I have been for the last 3 years. Unfortunately United healthcare will only cover zubsolv. Suboxone was literally a life saver. It gave me the opportunity to live a happy and productive life with my kids. I have been on Zubsolv now for 2 weeks and have been sick since the first day. Suboxone never made me nauseas or gave me migraines. Suboxone took away nearly all withdrawal symptoms and allowed me to function normally like I did before getting on opiates in the first place. Since beginning Zubsolv I have felt the bioavailability is not as good as Suboxone sublingual film. It seems like I'm not absorbing it. After each dose of Zubsolv I still have feelings of withdrawal. Plus I've been having horrible headaches, stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, lightheadedness. I wouldn't ever recommend Zubsolv over Suboxone to anyone.
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Reviewer: stinaaa101, 19-24 Female on Treatment for 1 to less than 2 years (Patient)

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I've been on zubsolv for almost a year now. & I think its way better than sub. To me it last longer. Taste better. & gives me a bit of a rush unlike sub. Sub made me so freaking tired I hated it. The only problem with zub is that my pharmacy isn't well educated on it & its always a Hassel getting it in stock. My insurance paid for it. But now I have none so I use the 225$ off ... Show Full Comment

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I've been on zubsolv for almost a year now. & I think its way better than sub. To me it last longer. Taste better. & gives me a bit of a rush unlike sub. Sub made me so freaking tired I hated it. The only problem with zub is that my pharmacy isn't well educated on it & its always a Hassel getting it in stock. My insurance paid for it. But now I have none so I use the 225$ off coupon.
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Reviewer: cottonsweet, 35-44 Female on Treatment for 6 months to less than 1 year (Patient)

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I switched due to insurance. Was on Sub8 2x a day. Within 6 months went to one a day. New ins. Wont pay and it took 20 days for the Zub to be approved etc. Luckily I had plenty of extra sub. Otherwise I would of had to use......I dont like the taste or the way it fills my mouth and mixes with saliva makes my tongue numb. I end up swollowing it and that gives me a stomach ache. Does not help with m ... Show Full Comment

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I switched due to insurance. Was on Sub8 2x a day. Within 6 months went to one a day. New ins. Wont pay and it took 20 days for the Zub to be approved etc. Luckily I had plenty of extra sub. Otherwise I would of had to use......I dont like the taste or the way it fills my mouth and mixes with saliva makes my tongue numb. I end up swollowing it and that gives me a stomach ache. Does not help with management of pain very much. So if you truly have pain, there is not much you can do if taking this.
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Reviewer: K3nnyg, 45-54 Male (Patient)

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I switched from subs to zubs about three weeks ago. I went from a 3gr a day IV heroin habit to 32mgs of subs and then tapered off to nothing on my own in 45 days or so. Yes I was hurtin bad the entire time but I just wanted off everything. Don't do that btw. Listen to your doctor because in the end I was off everything for 7 days went bought some dope and woke up in an ambulance after literall ... Show Full Comment

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I switched from subs to zubs about three weeks ago. I went from a 3gr a day IV heroin habit to 32mgs of subs and then tapered off to nothing on my own in 45 days or so. Yes I was hurtin bad the entire time but I just wanted off everything. Don't do that btw. Listen to your doctor because in the end I was off everything for 7 days went bought some dope and woke up in an ambulance after literally dying....or that's what i was told by the paramedics anyways. Anyways after that I went back to the doctor and went back on subs....or at least I wanted subs but was given zubs. 5.7. Twice a day. Well I'm all honesty I only take one per day but that's through sheer willpower. These do NOT last as long. I think in there rush to increase bioavailability they missed the fact that anything that reaches peak saturation levels faster also has a similarly steep decline also. In other words the faster it hits you the faster it goes away. I have seen studies that quantify effective levels in comparison with suboxone but now that I think about it I haven't seen any that quantify the half life of zubs. My own annecdotal experience is that it definitely does not last as long for me. Also I get the over medicated thing that ppl are talking about. I feel that a little also. It also makes perfect sense as it's made to absorb faster. I imagine that it's something to do with the effect of menthol and localized vasodilation but that is a guess. Either way I give it a thumbs down. Why mess with something that ain't broke. Is there a shortage of bupe or something that I don't know about? Otherwise it's still the EXACT same amount of it in your blood so you are not taking any more or less then if you take an 8mg strip. Odd though when you think about it. They say it's equivalent because of greater bioavailability but the old tabs were less bioavailability then the strips are but they didn't tell us then that you should do like 6mg strips coming from 8mg tabs.
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